Does Carson Palmer move up or down?, With T.O. in the picture Options

[Clayballs]

I'm on the fence on this one. When I first heard T.O. was going to Cincy, my first instinct was to move him up on my rankings. I had him at #14 before the T.O deal and moved him up to #10 immediately.

I have since kind of stepped back and thought about the whole situation. Seriously, how long will it be until Ochocinco and T.O. are causing some sort of off-the-field drama that will more than likely be shown on VH1 and the team self implodes around them? There is no way those 2 egos make it a full season. I'm sure the first few weeeks or so, it'll be all smiles and they'll talk about how great it is to be on the same team with such talent, etc. But about week 6 or so, when T.O. gets only 1 reception, the sh!t hits the fan!!!

So, now I am thinking about actually moving him down my rankings to about the 18-20 range.

[American Mullet]

I'm on the fence on this one. When I first heard T.O. was going to Cincy, my first instinct was to move him up on my rankings. I had him at #14 before the T.O deal and moved him up to #10 immediately.

I have since kind of stepped back and thought about the whole situation. Seriously, how long will it be until Ochocinco and T.O. are causing some sort of off-the-field drama that will more than likely be shown on VH1 and the team self implodes around them? There is no way those 2 egos make it a full season. I'm sure the first few weeeks or so, it'll be all smiles and they'll talk about how great it is to be on the same team with such talent, etc. But about week 6 or so, when T.O. gets only 1 reception, the sh!t hits the fan!!!

So, now I am thinking about actually moving him down my rankings to about the 18-20 range.

I wouldn't be concerned about any of that, I'm not. TO and Ocho get along and TO behaves the first year. My concern is watching Palmer throw. I think his arm is shot. If you watched him at the end of the year and in the playoffs he was arguably the worst QB in the league. The problem even if he looks good in the preseason, how many weeks will it take before the elbow goes dead again? I may be wrong, but at the prices the Bengals players are going I'm fine with that.

[Dread_Pirate]

I think Palmer is done. He could have Larry Fitz and Reggie Wayne on his team, then and only then would I even consider drafting him. Otherwise, nah. I'd take Benson in the 2nd round though. I don't want anyone else on that team. Find better options elsewhere.

[Mab]

I'm on the fence on this one. When I first heard T.O. was going to Cincy, my first instinct was to move him up on my rankings. I had him at #14 before the T.O deal and moved him up to #10 immediately.

I have since kind of stepped back and thought about the whole situation. Seriously, how long will it be until Ochocinco and T.O. are causing some sort of off-the-field drama that will more than likely be shown on VH1 and the team self implodes around them? There is no way those 2 egos make it a full season. I'm sure the first few weeeks or so, it'll be all smiles and they'll talk about how great it is to be on the same team with such talent, etc. But about week 6 or so, when T.O. gets only 1 reception, the sh!t hits the fan!!!

So, now I am thinking about actually moving him down my rankings to about the 18-20 range.

I couldn't agree more. His ADP will go up, based on camp talk and peoples memory of what Palmer, Ocho, Owens and Bryant would have done a few years ago. These guys have Matt Jones on the roster too, talk about a collection of low character players and that's just the recievers. The chemistry could work, but I don't see how. And they could all finish the season without a blow-up, but I wouldn't bet on it. All that being said, I'd still draft one of these players in the very late rounds--they won't be there in the late rounds though.

[Dread_Pirate]

What are the odds the team either goes on a Boat Sex trip on Lake Superior, or get caught in a strip club, making it rain with Pacman Jones?

I'll go out making the line 1/3 by the end of the season!!!